All About Multisite – unSeminary https://unseminary.com stuff you wish they taught in seminary Tue, 16 Apr 2019 18:47:53 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3 https://i0.wp.com/unseminary.com/wp-content/uploads/arrow_300x300.png?fit=32%2C32&ssl=1 All About Multisite – unSeminary https://unseminary.com 32 32 Are you looking for practical ministry help to drive your ministry further ... faster?<br /> Have a sinking feeling that your ministry training didn't prepare you for the real world?<br /> Hey ... you're not alone! Join thousands of others in pursuit of stuff they wish they taught in seminary.<br /> Published every Thursday the goal of the unSeminary podcast is to be an encouragement to Pastors and Church Leaders with practical help you can apply to your ministry right away. Rich Birch false episodic Rich Birch © unSeminary & Rich Birch © unSeminary & Rich Birch podcast stuff you wish they taught in seminary. All About Multisite – unSeminary http://unseminary.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/powerpress/unsem_pod_3000x3000.jpg https://unseminary.com/category/all-about-multisite/ TV-G Every Thursday c9c7bad3-4712-514e-9ebd-d1e208fa1b76 All About Multisite // One or Two Services? Plus other launch advice! https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-one-or-two-services-plus-other-launch-advice/ https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-one-or-two-services-plus-other-launch-advice/#respond Wed, 24 Apr 2019 08:44:05 +0000 https://unseminary.com/?p=10088 Welcome back to our monthly All About Multisite podcast! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows:

Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. She is a key leader from The Meeting House. This church has 19 (!) locations and is doing all kinds of great stuff, including a killer kids’ & youth curriculum that they give away for free. Natalie’s a lot of fun and will have so many great insights around leading in a thriving multisite church.

Greg Curtis is our guest connections and assimilation expert. He leads at Eastside Christian Church, one of the fastest growing churches in the country, and literally, is the “go to” source for getting people to stick and stay in the church. (Eastside has assimilated something like 1,500 people in the last 18 months!) His coaching practice around assimilation is amazing.

Ben Stapley is our communications and service programming expert. Ben is one of the most helpful leaders I know. His day job is the Weekend Experience Director at Christ Fellowship in Miami, but he does so much to help other leaders with the “big show” part of church world.

And I, Rich, have been involved with 14 different campus launches over the years and enjoy helping churches that are thinking about multisite.

We are here to answer your questions about running a multisite church and are excited to be here today with our twelfth episode.

Opening Question: What’s something surprising that you’ve learned about leadership in the year?

  • Natalie – You’re not as important as you think you are. It’s true. It’s God’s Kingdom and He’s going to continue to push through the things that need to happen and I get to be part of this cool thing.
  • Greg – Two things: One is that loving relationship makes leadership almost effortless. The other one is that people actually want to grow as leaders. They want to become leaders and grow as leaders.
  • Ben – The first is that I’m not as good of a leader as I thought or fancied myself to be. The second is that you can manage people you don’t love, but you can’t lead people you don’t love. If I want to draw out the best in them and help them be who they were designed to be by God, I really need to love them.
  • Rich – I’ve been wrestling with the idea that as a leader, particularly in an organization where you have some staff that report to you and you have some people that work full-time, 50-60% of my job is just acquiring great staff. What can we do to ensure that onboarding experience is the best it can be? What can we do to ensure we’re finding the right people?

Question 1: When it’s a larger venue, do you start with multiple services so the volunteers can attend one and serve one, or start with one service for a while and then work up to adding the second service?

When you launch a new campus, Natalie explains from experience that volunteers and staff will develop some bad habits that need to be addressed. There will be great things that happen, but also issues that need to be corrected. One service will lead to one set of bad habits, but two services doubles that all at once. Nail the site experience before you replicate it. Refine how you run the service and then begin the second service.

Ask yourself the important questions before starting the second service: What is the capacity of the location? Natalie says that one of the worst things you could do is turn away people with kids. If your location doesn’t have capacity for kids’ classes, then it’s worth considering a second service when launching. What is the cost for prepping for two services? Do you have the volunteers needed?

When launching a campus, Greg’s church, Eastside, has always started with two services. It can help build the church and reach more people when there is more than one option. Two services will allow the volunteers to take turns serving in one and then worshipping in one. One of the issues to consider is critical mass. Consider how many people will attend at the launch of the campus and how many volunteers are needed to sustain the launch. Build critical mass through both spontaneous and organic outreach.

There are three big times of the year that you need to take into consideration when considering a new site launch: Christmas/New Year’s, Easter, and fall kickoff. These are times when new locations can be launched by starting a month or so before these seasons and then gaining the extra attendance from these holidays. Regardless of the size of your auditorium, make sure it’s set up for the size you’re expecting so it feels full.

Ben also supports launching with two locations. Teachers have the message prepped, creatives have designed content, the worship team has practiced. All have already done the hard work. The weekend just requires execution, which is the fun part that people look forward to.

It also helps to standardize marketing and communication. For example, if you have multiple locations and they all have services at 9am and 11am, it’s less confusing for people to remember what time each campus meets. If you launch with two services core volunteers serve one and attend/invite for one. It’s not just about feeding your volunteers, but also about cultivating an invite culture. With two services, you bake in a growth model.

A challenge to consider with two services where a volunteer serves at one and worships at the other is creating a space for their children for two services. It can be stressful for the parents to make their children sit through the kids’ programming twice, so consider alternatives. Perhaps this looks like children volunteering with their parents, or main services being kid-friendly so that the kids can sit with their parents instead of staying in the children’s area the whole time.

Contact us at our websites:
www.themeetinghouse.com
www.curriculum.church
www.eastside.com
www.gregcurtis-assimilation.com
www.cfmiami.org
www.benstapley.info

GregCurtis_cta on Instagram
NatalieFrisk on Twitter or email her
Email Ben

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https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-one-or-two-services-plus-other-launch-advice/feed/ 0 Welcome back to our monthly All About Multisite podcast! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows: Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. Welcome back to our monthly All About Multisite podcast! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows:







Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. She is a key leader from The Meeting House. This church has 19 (!) locations and is doing all kinds of great stuff, including a killer kids’ & youth curriculum that they give away for free. Natalie’s a lot of fun and will have so many great insights around leading in a thriving multisite church.







Greg Curtis is our guest connections and assimilation expert. He leads at Eastside Christian Church, one of the fastest growing churches in the country, and literally, is the “go to” source for getting people to stick and stay in the church. (Eastside has assimilated something like 1,500 people in the last 18 months!) His coaching practice around assimilation is amazing.







Ben Stapley is our communications and service programming expert. Ben is one of the most helpful leaders I know. His day job is the Weekend Experience Director at Christ Fellowship in Miami, but he does so much to help other leaders with the “big show” part of church world.



And I, Rich, have been involved with 14 different campus launches over the years and enjoy helping churches that are thinking about multisite.



We are here to answer your questions about running a multisite church and are excited to be here today with our twelfth episode.



Opening Question: What’s something surprising that you’ve learned about leadership in the year?



* Natalie – You’re not as important as you think you are. It’s true. It’s God’s Kingdom and He’s going to continue to push through the things that need to happen and I get to be part of this cool thing. * Greg – Two things: One is that loving relationship makes leadership almost effortless. The other one is that people actually want to grow as leaders. They want to become leaders and grow as leaders.* Ben – The first is that I’m not as good of a leader as I thought or fancied myself to be. The second is that you can manage people you don’t love, but you can’t lead people you don’t love. If I want to draw out the best in them and help them be who they were designed to be by God, I really need to love them. * Rich – I’ve been wrestling with the idea that as a leader, particularly in an organization where you have some staff that report to you and you have some people that work full-time, 50-60% of my job is just acquiring great staff. What can we do to ensure that onboarding experience is the best it can be? What can we do to ensure we’re finding the right people?



Question 1: When
it’s a larger venue, do you start with multiple services so the volunteers can
attend one and serve one, or start with one service for a while and then work
up to adding the second service?



When you launch a new campus, Natalie explains from experience that volunteers and staff will develop some bad habits that need to be addressed. There will be great things that happen, but also issues that need to be corrected. One service will lead to one set of bad habits, but two services doubles that all at once. Nail the site experience before you replicate it. Refine how you run the service and then begin the second service.



Ask yourself the important questions before starting the second service: What is the capacity of the location? Natalie says that one of the worst things you could do is turn away people with kids. If your location doesn’t have capacity for kids’ classes,]]>
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All About Multisite // Coaching to Help Your Campuses Thrive This Easter! https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-coaching-to-help-your-campuses-thrive-this-easter/ https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-coaching-to-help-your-campuses-thrive-this-easter/#respond Wed, 27 Mar 2019 08:44:44 +0000 https://unseminary.com/?p=10016 Welcome back to our monthly All About Multisite podcast! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows:

Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. She is a key leader from The Meeting House. This church has 19 (!) locations and is doing all kinds of great stuff, including a killer kids’ & youth curriculum that they give away for free. Natalie’s a lot of fun and will have so many great insights around leading in a thriving multisite church.

Greg Curtis is our guest connections and assimilation expert. He leads at Eastside Christian Church, one of the fastest growing churches in the country, and literally, is the “go to” source for getting people to stick and stay in the church. (Eastside has assimilated something like 1,500 people in the last 18 months!) His coaching practice around assimilation is amazing.

Ben Stapley is our communications and service programming expert. Ben is one of the most helpful leaders I know. His day job is the Weekend Experience Director at Christ Fellowship in Miami, but he does so much to help other leaders with the “big show” part of church world.

And I, Rich, have been involved with 14 different campus launches over the years and enjoy helping churches that are thinking about multisite.

We are here to answer your questions about running a multisite church and are excited to be here today with our twelfth episode.

Open Question: Which Easter candy do you like: Peeps or the hollow chocolate Easter bunny?

  • Natalie – It’s clearly the hollow the chocolate bunny. Peeps are like the candy corn of Easter.
  • Greg – I think that because Eastside has a Peeps party for all of our kids during Easter, and they’re going back to their parents all hyper and sticky, I’m going hollow chocolate bunny all the way.
  • Ben – I’m the person who adds another option, so I’m going with those little small hard Cadbury eggs with the little sugar coating on them. I have a hard time not finishing a whole bag at one time.
  • Rich – I would have to say if I had to choose, I would definitely say a chocolate bunny because I’m not sure exactly what Peeps are. It’s like sugarized Styrofoam or something like that.

This month we’ll be doing something a little different on the show. Everyone has been so great at their different churches that they’re coaching all the time and other churches reach out to them. So this episode we’ll have a conversation around Easter and what advice we’ll give to our campus leadership as we get ready for the big day.

Easter is the day that two things happen: Our people are more likely to invite their friends and their friends are more likely to attend. So today we’ll discuss what advice we’d give to our campus leadership and also to other churches as we come into these last three and a half weeks before Easter.

Greg: Eight things to think about when preparing teams for Easter.

#1: Preparing and providing great parking lot attendants. Obviously your parking lot will be bigger and more full. It’s easy to think your other sites are smaller than your broadcast site and you don’t need more parking, but a lot of these sites are not traditional churches and are in places such as movie theaters or high schools so it’s important to be welcoming and give them the feeling of “We’ve arrived at the right place.” Think of the first impression you want someone to have.

#2: Offer something unexpected and free when they come in. Such as a snack, like donuts and coffee. If you are worried that you may have a service that is too full and won’t have enough room for everyone to sit, let everyone know that there will be a free snack at only one of the lighter services, such as offering the coffee and donuts only at the early morning service as an incentive for people to make room for guests in later services.

#3: Give your guest experience teams permission to go off script on greetings. Train your people to give something P.U.R.E. to the guests. P.U.R.E. stands for Positive Unexpected Relational Experience.

#4: Stack your guests’ experiences with extra team members. An easy way to do that is to mobilize all the staff who don’t have a role in the services themselves that Easter. They can put on a yellow vest and be part of the parking lot team, give tours, or help people.

#5: The gift you give away in exchange for people’s contact information matters. If you want to make a disciple start by having the contact information to build a relationship.

#6: Make sure you have an assimilation follow up plan beginning on Easter. Let them get an email after 48 hours from the lead pastor or campus pastor that welcomes them, shares what the vision is, and invites them to go to next steps when they’re ready.

#7: You might consider sending invitations to an awesome post-Easter message series. If you feel that you’ll be reaching a lot of people who don’t have faith on Easter then craft your message that way.

#8: Only have “one ask” for guests. For Easter just let them know to go get a free gift because you’re so happy they’re here and to share with you their contact info when they go over there if they will. Make sure the follow up “one ask” is appropriate for your church and will connect them with God.

Ben: What can you do before the weekend, during the weekend, and then after the weekend to maximize it? Before the weekend of Easter, churches still have the opportunity to create an invitational culture. Don’t ask your guests to invite people, tell them who you’re inviting. If you tell them to invite you’re just giving them another action step, but if you tell them who you’re inviting you as a leader create a culture of modeling who you’re inviting. Make sure to have physical and digital invitations. Leverage the other holidays before Easter, such as Lent, Ash Wednesday, Palm Sunday, and Good Friday. Create extra devotional content so that people can be more interested in spiritual content as the holiday is coming up. And finally, post service times everywhere so that people who aren’t familiar with your church can know when to come. Post the times on Facebook and Twitter with the posts pinned to the top.

During the Easter services, maximize the power of Easter services multiple times across your campuses instead of once well and then mediocre the rest of the time. Have a photo booth so people can get a photo of themselves dressed for Easter and to use on social media if they want. Use extra steps to brand it with your church logo on the background and offer props to be used.

After Easter, thank your volunteers. You can send them a thank you card and add in a gift card too. Plan your post-Easter debrief right away. Meet with the staff to know what worked and what didn’t, what you should add or subtract. Be different as a church body. How has God uniquely called you to live out His gospel?

Natalie: Inviting people and making them realize an incredible opportunity is more than just a service opportunity. With volunteers, asking them to do things on these holidays that aren’t on their regular times may get messy but it is an opportunity to make them see the big picture. Make sure volunteers are early. On the subject of Messianic Seder, there is one on the website of Jennifer Dukes Lee and for families with children to go through the whole experience and shows the symbolism and meaningfulness in the ritual of the Seder meal.

Good Friday and Easter Sunday weekends are two of the few times that guarantee parents and kids to align on the same content. Don’t be afraid to let kids know the whole story about Jesus’s death and going to be with His Father. And for both adults and children don’t end the story with the death of Jesus, let them know about the light that is coming one day. Make sure the experience on Easter is important, such as providing crafts for the kids that remind the entire family.

Contact us at our websites:
www.themeetinghouse.com
www.curriculum.church
www.eastside.com
www.gregcurtis-assimilation.com
www.cfmiami.org
www.benstapley.info

Got a question for us? Record it and send it to rich@unseminary.com

Thank You for Tuning In!

There are a lot of podcasts you could be tuning into today, but you chose unSeminary, and I’m grateful for that. If you enjoyed today’s show, please share it by using the social media buttons you see at the left hand side of this page. Also, kindly consider taking the 60-seconds it takes to leave an honest review and rating for the podcast on iTunes, they’re extremely helpful when it comes to the ranking of the show and you can bet that I read every single one of them personally!

Lastly, don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast on iTunes, to get automatic updates every time a new episode goes live!

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https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-coaching-to-help-your-campuses-thrive-this-easter/feed/ 0 Welcome back to our monthly All About Multisite podcast! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows: Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. Welcome back to our monthly All About Multisite podcast! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows:







Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. She is a key leader from The Meeting House. This church has 19 (!) locations and is doing all kinds of great stuff, including a killer kids’ & youth curriculum that they give away for free. Natalie’s a lot of fun and will have so many great insights around leading in a thriving multisite church.







Greg Curtis is our guest connections and assimilation expert. He leads at Eastside Christian Church, one of the fastest growing churches in the country, and literally, is the “go to” source for getting people to stick and stay in the church. (Eastside has assimilated something like 1,500 people in the last 18 months!) His coaching practice around assimilation is amazing.







Ben Stapley is our communications and service programming expert. Ben is one of the most helpful leaders I know. His day job is the Weekend Experience Director at Christ Fellowship in Miami, but he does so much to help other leaders with the “big show” part of church world.



And I, Rich, have been involved with 14 different campus launches over the years and enjoy helping churches that are thinking about multisite.



We are here to answer your questions about running a multisite church and are excited to be here today with our twelfth episode.



Open Question: Which
Easter candy do you like: Peeps or the hollow chocolate Easter bunny?



* Natalie – It’s clearly the hollow the chocolate bunny. Peeps are like the candy corn of Easter.* Greg – I think that because Eastside has a Peeps party for all of our kids during Easter, and they’re going back to their parents all hyper and sticky, I’m going hollow chocolate bunny all the way.* Ben – I’m the person who adds another option, so I’m going with those little small hard Cadbury eggs with the little sugar coating on them. I have a hard time not finishing a whole bag at one time.* Rich – I would have to say if I had to choose, I would definitely say a chocolate bunny because I’m not sure exactly what Peeps are. It’s like sugarized Styrofoam or something like that.



This month we’ll be doing something a little different
on the show. Everyone has been so great at their different churches that
they’re coaching all the time and other churches reach out to them. So this
episode we’ll have a conversation around Easter and what advice we’ll give to
our campus leadership as we get ready for the big day.



Easter is the day that two things happen: Our people
are more likely to invite their friends and their friends are more likely to
attend. So today we’ll discuss what advice we’d give to our campus leadership
and also to other churches as we come into these last three and a half weeks
before Easter.



Greg: Eight things to think about when preparing teams for Easter.



#1: Preparing and
providing great parking lot attendants. Obviously your parking lot will be bigger
and more full. It’s easy to think your other sites are smaller than your
broadcast site and you don’t need more parking, but a lot of these sites are
not traditional churches and are in places such as movie theaters or high
schools so it’s important to be welcoming and give them the feeling of “We’ve
arrived at the right place.” Think of the first impression you want someone to
have.



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All About Multisite // Mergers & Rebirths Plus Free Downloadable Resources For You! https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-mergers-rebirths-plus-free-downloadable-resources-for-you/ https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-mergers-rebirths-plus-free-downloadable-resources-for-you/#comments Wed, 27 Feb 2019 06:44:38 +0000 https://unseminary.com/?p=9945 Welcome back to our monthly All About Multisite podcast! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows:

Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. She is a key leader from The Meeting House. This church has 19 (!) locations and is doing all kinds of great stuff, including a killer kids’ & youth curriculum that they give away for free. Natalie’s a lot of fun and will have so many great insights around leading in a thriving multisite church.

Greg Curtis is our guest connections and assimilation expert. He leads at Eastside Christian Church, one of the fastest growing churches in the country, and literally, is the “go to” source for getting people to stick and stay in the church. (Eastside has assimilated something like 1,500 people in the last 18 months!) His coaching practice around assimilation is amazing.

Ben Stapley is our communications and service programming expert. Ben is one of the most helpful leaders I know. His day job is the Weekend Experience Director at Christ Fellowship in Miami, but he does so much to help other leaders with the “big show” part of church world.

And I, Rich, have been involved with 14 different campus launches over the years and enjoy helping churches that are thinking about multisite.

We are here to answer your questions about running a multisite church and are excited to be here today with our eleventh episode.

Open Question: Where do you find new volunteers to help fuel your ministry area?

  • Natalie – I have a couple of different answers for that in our context. One is we literally raise them up. Luckily in kids and youth ministry we can start kids when they are young. And two is invite your friend, bring someone along with you.
  • Greg – We have an ongoing process that through our steps they meet a ministry leader and sign up right then. What benefits us every month in assimilation ministry is they’re experiencing the environment they would serve in.
  • Ben – I hit organizationally and then departmentally. We’re training for our teen nights, so for us that will be two birds with one stone where it’s going to be a training and recruitment time, high energy, high fun. The other tip is maybe every other year do a teaching service on volunteerism, giving back.

Question 1: What should we expect as we look to the future with our expansion? What advice should we consider as we look to mergers in the future?

A third of all new campuses are happening because of a merger. Ben advises to understand where your church is and how they are perceived in the local community before going down this road. How will other people perceive you when you reach out to them? Make the potential partnership a clear win-win where you are helping the other congregation and allowing them to learn from you even if they don’t merge with you. It will be a helpful journey for the church either way for the pastor and the congregation so they don’t have to feel threatened.

Having distinct clarity in as many areas as possible is important so that leadership from both churches come to the table and says they are all in this together. There are so many things to consider when it comes to a merger. Natalie warns that when you’re merging with a church that has been around for a long time there will be a lot of sacred cows that need to be sacrificed, even in the children’s ministry. Everyone needs to come to the same place, in everything from children’s ministry to security and all parts of the church.

Greg describes an 8 to 12 month process his church uses for mergers:

  1. Have a conversation with the pastor, which is always initiated by the pastor. The conversation is very candid and does not gloss over the difficulties ahead.
  2. Buy in from board. Eastside has had experiences where the pastor is all in, but the board not so much and the congregation voted against merging.
  3. An interest meeting that is open to the entire church. The church members all come for dinner in their fellowship hall and we show videos of other churches that we’ve been able to reboot with this process and we share our vision.
  4. Read the book Better Together by Jim Tomberlin and Warren Bird. It covers the area of the spiritual, social, political, and fiscal issues.
  5. Preview Service. Greg’s church sends their team over to the other church to do a worship service and includes all assimilation elements so the church can experience what would happen if they did merge with Eastside.
  6. The church has to vote.
  7. Determining the vote goes well, how many volunteers and staff will you need for critical mass for this campus? Greg’s group starts with 3 full-time staff: campus pastor, weekend experience director, and associate pastor.
  8. They have a final service and celebrate a mutual legacy.
  9. Construction phase. Installing audio/visual equipment, etc.
  10. Launch.

Question 2: Do you have a tool you could share with our listeners?

Greg offers a link to Climbing the Assimalayas: Becoming Sherpas in People’s Journey to Connect. This PDF gives advice on connecting with guests and helping them connect and grow into the volunteer program at your church. With the assimilation follow up checklist in the PDF, Greg converts it into a checklist form on his computer and during meetings they check off what they’ve done. They are then able to see what still needs to be tackled and can make a plan for each item left.

Natalie offers help for home churches and making them kid friendly, as a lot of families are struggling with their kids being happy about going to home church. She offers three documents: Family Friendly Home Church Purpose, Family Friendly Home Church Sample Models, and Family Friendly Home Church Supply List.

Ben offers a link to the Bumper Checklist. The bumper is the 30-60 second video that usually plays before a message. It introduces the topic and practically speaking, it allows production teams to reset the stage in the dark. Great bumpers are a significant financial investment from you’re creative department. So you’ll want to make sure they’re as effective as possible. Here is a checklist to do just that.

Rich shares the link to 6 Dirty Secrets about Multisite Churches That (Almost) No-one is Talking About. If your church is thinking about doing multisite, this could be the kind of resource you could use with your team to get them thinking about multisite. Or if you’re already doing multisite, you could also use it with your team to flesh out some problems you may currently be having.

Contact us at our websites:
www.themeetinghouse.com
www.curriculum.church
www.eastside.com
www.gregcurtis-assimilation.com
www.cfmiami.org
www.benstapley.info

Got a question for us? Record it and send it to rich@unseminary.com

Thank You for Tuning In!

There are a lot of podcasts you could be tuning into today, but you chose unSeminary, and I’m grateful for that. If you enjoyed today’s show, please share it by using the social media buttons you see at the left hand side of this page. Also, kindly consider taking the 60-seconds it takes to leave an honest review and rating for the podcast on iTunes, they’re extremely helpful when it comes to the ranking of the show and you can bet that I read every single one of them personally!

Lastly, don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast on iTunes, to get automatic updates every time a new episode goes live!

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https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-mergers-rebirths-plus-free-downloadable-resources-for-you/feed/ 1 Welcome back to our monthly All About Multisite podcast! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows: Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. Welcome back to our monthly All About Multisite podcast! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows:







Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. She is a key leader from The Meeting House. This church has 19 (!) locations and is doing all kinds of great stuff, including a killer kids’ & youth curriculum that they give away for free. Natalie’s a lot of fun and will have so many great insights around leading in a thriving multisite church.







Greg Curtis is our guest connections and assimilation expert. He leads at Eastside Christian Church, one of the fastest growing churches in the country, and literally, is the “go to” source for getting people to stick and stay in the church. (Eastside has assimilated something like 1,500 people in the last 18 months!) His coaching practice around assimilation is amazing.







Ben Stapley is our communications and service programming expert. Ben is one of the most helpful leaders I know. His day job is the Weekend Experience Director at Christ Fellowship in Miami, but he does so much to help other leaders with the “big show” part of church world.



And I, Rich, have been involved with 14 different campus launches over the years and enjoy helping churches that are thinking about multisite.



We are here to answer your questions about running a multisite church and are excited to be here today with our eleventh episode.



Open Question: Where
do you find new volunteers to help fuel your ministry area?



* Natalie – I have a couple of different answers for that in our context. One is we literally raise them up. Luckily in kids and youth ministry we can start kids when they are young. And two is invite your friend, bring someone along with you. * Greg – We have an ongoing process that through our steps they meet a ministry leader and sign up right then. What benefits us every month in assimilation ministry is they’re experiencing the environment they would serve in.* Ben – I hit organizationally and then departmentally. We’re training for our teen nights, so for us that will be two birds with one stone where it’s going to be a training and recruitment time, high energy, high fun. The other tip is maybe every other year do a teaching service on volunteerism, giving back.



Question 1: What
should we expect as we look to the future with our expansion? What advice
should we consider as we look to mergers in the future?



A third of all new campuses are happening because of a merger. Ben advises to understand where your church is and how they are perceived in the local community before going down this road. How will other people perceive you when you reach out to them? Make the potential partnership a clear win-win where you are helping the other congregation and allowing them to learn from you even if they don’t merge with you. It will be a helpful journey for the church either way for the pastor and the congregation so they don’t have to feel threatened.



Having distinct clarity in as many areas as possible is important so that leadership from both churches come to the table and says they are all in this together. There are so many things to consider when it comes to a merger. Natalie warns that when you’re merging with a church that has been around for a long time there will be a lot of sacred cows that need to be sacrificed, even in the children’s ministry. Everyone needs to come to the same place, in everything from children’s ministry to security and all parts of the church.
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All About Multisite // Help! Our Campuses Aren’t Growing!! https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-help-our-campuses-arent-growing/ https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-help-our-campuses-arent-growing/#respond Wed, 30 Jan 2019 09:44:33 +0000 https://unseminary.com/?p=9858 Welcome back to our monthly All About Multisite podcast! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows:

Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. She is a key leader from The Meeting House. This church has 19 (!) locations and is doing all kinds of great stuff, including a killer kids’ & youth curriculum that they give away for free. Natalie’s a lot of fun and will have so many great insights around leading in a thriving multisite church.

Greg Curtis is our guest connections and assimilation expert. He leads at Eastside Christian Church, one of the fastest growing churches in the country, and literally, is the “go to” source for getting people to stick and stay in the church. (Eastside has assimilated something like 1,500 people in the last 18 months!) His coaching practice around assimilation is amazing.

Ben Stapley is our communications and service programming expert. Ben is one of the most helpful leaders I know. His day job is the Weekend Experience Director at Christ Fellowship in Miami, but he does so much to help other leaders with the “big show” part of church world.

And I, Rich, have been involved with 14 different campus launches over the years and enjoy helping churches that are thinking about multisite.

We are here to answer your questions about running a multisite church and are excited to be here today with our tenth episode.

Open Question: What’s another church you’d love to visit this year? (And why?)

  • Natalie – One would be Life Church simply because I’ve never been and have a bunch a friends that have worked there over the years. And also I’d like to visit Liquid Church because I heard there were some cool guys who worked there that I know. I would love to go visit some churches that are doing an incredible job of leading a variety of ethnic backgrounds.
  • Greg – I think of Connexus because of all kinds of stuff I’d love to see. But you know one church I find myself fantasizing about is this tiny Baptist church near east Los Angeles where I met Jesus and I want to go back.
  • Ben – I would be interested in ones that are crushing the service experience—ones I can think of are Central Church in Vegas, some local churches in Orlando and Menlo Church in Menlo Park.
  • Rich – I’d love to get a chance to visit each one of your churches and spend a weekend with you and see you do your thing.

We’ve just launched a three-part video series that is free and one of these videos is designed to help your church grow. If you want to get this video series, then while you’re listening on your phone open up the messenger app and send the word CHURCHGROWTH to 44222. The first launched yesterday, the next will launch in a couple of days. They are free and designed to help your church grow.

Just one “roundtable” discussion today: HELP! Our campuses aren’t growing! What advice would you give to leaders who are looking to see their campuses reach more people?

Focus on these three parts: Pray, Plan, and Promote. Ben advises that you start with why you want growth, for God’s glory or your own? Communicate the clarity of this glory for God to the staff and congregation, and ask for His blessing. Then take a look at how you are bringing together your staff team in prayer and seeking God’s direction. Discern God’s Will Together by Ruth Haley Barton helps church leadership lean into God and listen to His voice. Natalie says when you do that as a staff team together that sense of prayer and seeking the spirit trickles down, and then it makes other people eager to invite people they know to church, making growth stimulated in that way.

One concern is that only 2% of people who attend church have invited friends last year. If you have one campus that’s not growing while others are, in that environment you need to dig into the invite issue and figure out what’s going on there with the ability to invite friends. Is the leadership inviting friends? Dig in and figure out if people have invited friends in the past year.

As we go into 2019, create a SMART organizational growth goal. Break this goal into campuses, departments, baptisms, first time guests. What do you anticipate? What do you want and what do you need to do accordingly? Have a SMART goal and then break it down upon your particular department and campuses, and communicate this goal to all staff.

Greg reminds us that church growth is more about connection than attraction. We can attract crowds, but if you want to see your church grow, you need to connect people that are already coming and visiting your church. Enhance your community with 1 to 3 new environments where you are connecting people with your key, attractional leaders. Also try opening the assimilation portal a little wider by using the texting option instead of having someone fill out a card. Have section hosts who arrive early and introduce themselves to the new people in the section they tend and invite them to get a free gift at the end of the service. These ways of connection can really jumpstart the growth.

Another tip is to heighten your awareness of kids and youth discipleship. A lot of places do incredible kids and youth programming, but take a look at how you are actually discipling your kids to be lifelong followers of Jesus. Is it something they feel so passionate about that they are inviting their friends and family members? People get excited when kids share what God is doing.

Look into the volunteer core and see where that is. The more people who are serving the church, the more people will talk about it. But if a campus’s volunteer core is shrinking, what that says is the vision of the church isn’t being translated to that campus for some reason. Why aren’t people into that campus? Dig into the volunteer core particularly and see how it benchmarks against others.

Create the initial invitation into the door to build growth by promoting. First start with a series content perspective. Ben likes to flip flop from a felt need—such as a good relationship with spouse—to an unfelt need—suffering makes me more Christ-like—message series. If your church stays with only the felt need or only the unfelt need it might be unhealthy either way, so flip flop between those. Then focus on the service content by keeping it fresh. If you keep it fresh then people come back to see what you’re doing this Sunday.

Be sure to make your physical and digital invitation tools as easy to use as possible. Some people want to pass out the invitations to everyone they know. Other people would rather post something online, so be sure to have the graphics formatted for an Instagram story as well as something like Facebook. Have someone thinking how all ages would want to invite people and what they would want to use in order to do so. Then share the stories of invitation and make it part of your culture through storytelling.

One tool Natalie recommends is Surprise the World: The Five Habits of Highly Missional People by Michael Frost and his idea called BELLS, which is an acronym for Blessed Eat Listen Learn Sent. It gives you some rhythms in your daily life and week for discipleship practices that are really effective and stepping outside of your day to day to really see the mission field.

Contact us at our websites:
www.themeetinghouse.com
www.curriculum.church
www.eastside.com
www.gregcurtis-assimilation.com
www.cfmiami.org
www.benstapley.info

Got a question for us? Record it and send it to rich@unseminary.com

And remember to text CHURCHGROWTH to 44222 to get the first video for our three-part series on helping your church grow and also be in the queue for the other two as soon as they’re ready.

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https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-help-our-campuses-arent-growing/feed/ 0 Welcome back to our monthly All About Multisite podcast! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows: Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. Welcome back to our monthly All About Multisite podcast! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows:







Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. She is a key leader from The Meeting House. This church has 19 (!) locations and is doing all kinds of great stuff, including a killer kids’ & youth curriculum that they give away for free. Natalie’s a lot of fun and will have so many great insights around leading in a thriving multisite church.







Greg Curtis is our guest connections and assimilation expert. He leads at Eastside Christian Church, one of the fastest growing churches in the country, and literally, is the “go to” source for getting people to stick and stay in the church. (Eastside has assimilated something like 1,500 people in the last 18 months!) His coaching practice around assimilation is amazing.







Ben Stapley is our communications and service programming expert. Ben is one of the most helpful leaders I know. His day job is the Weekend Experience Director at Christ Fellowship in Miami, but he does so much to help other leaders with the “big show” part of church world.



And I, Rich, have been involved with 14 different campus launches over the years and enjoy helping churches that are thinking about multisite.



We are here to answer your questions about running a multisite church and are excited to be here today with our tenth episode.



Open Question: What’s
another church you’d love to visit this year? (And why?)



* Natalie – One would be Life Church simply because I’ve never been and have a bunch a friends that have worked there over the years. And also I’d like to visit Liquid Church because I heard there were some cool guys who worked there that I know. I would love to go visit some churches that are doing an incredible job of leading a variety of ethnic backgrounds.* Greg – I think of Connexus because of all kinds of stuff I’d love to see. But you know one church I find myself fantasizing about is this tiny Baptist church near east Los Angeles where I met Jesus and I want to go back.* Ben – I would be interested in ones that are crushing the service experience—ones I can think of are Central Church in Vegas, some local churches in Orlando and Menlo Church in Menlo Park. * Rich – I’d love to get a chance to visit each one of your churches and spend a weekend with you and see you do your thing.



We’ve just launched a three-part video series that is
free and one of these videos is designed to help your church grow. If you want
to get this video series, then while you’re listening on your phone open up the
messenger app and send the word CHURCHGROWTH to 44222. The first launched
yesterday, the next will launch in a couple of days. They are free and designed
to help your church grow.



Just one
“roundtable” discussion today: HELP! Our campuses aren’t growing! What advice
would you give to leaders who are looking to see their campuses reach more
people?



Focus on these three parts: Pray, Plan, and Promote. Ben advises
that you start with why you want growth, for God’s glory or your own? Communicate
the clarity of this glory for God to the staff and congregation, and ask for
His blessing. Then take a look at how you are bringing together your
staff team in prayer and seeking God’s direction. Discern God’s Will Together by Ruth Haley Barton helps church
leadership lean into God and listen to His voice. Natalie says when you do that
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All About Multisite // The 2019 Predictions Episode! https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-the-2019-predictions-episode/ https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-the-2019-predictions-episode/#comments Wed, 26 Dec 2018 09:44:21 +0000 https://unseminary.com/?p=9744 Welcome back to our monthly All About Multisite podcast! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows:

Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. She is a key leader from The Meeting House. This church has 19 (!) locations and is doing all kinds of great stuff, including a killer kids’ & youth curriculum that they give away for free. Natalie’s a lot of fun and will have so many great insights around leading in a thriving multisite church.

Greg Curtis is our guest connections and assimilation expert. He leads at Eastside Christian Church, one of the fastest growing churches in the country, and literally, is the “go to” source for getting people to stick and stay in the church. (Eastside has assimilated something like 1,500 people in the last 18 months!) His coaching practice around assimilation is amazing.

Ben Stapley is our communications and service programming expert. Ben is one of the most helpful leaders I know. His day job is the Weekend Experience Director at Christ Fellowship in Miami, but he does so much to help other leaders with the “big show” part of church world.

And I, Rich, have been involved with 14 different campus launches over the years and enjoy helping churches that are thinking about multisite.

We are here to answer your questions about running a multisite church and are excited to be here today with our ninth episode.

Opening Question: What was a favorite (NON-CHRISTMAS) memory from your church this year?

  • Natalie – We launched our very own kids’ music for the first time this year. Another sweet memory that’s just fresh: I taught at a retreat a couple weekends ago and I was the junior high speaker. It was so awesome to see kids hungry and seeking after Jesus.
  • Greg – It was a panel our lead pastor did in a worship service. He asked the question “Is the God of all religions the same God?” He put a panel together and the results wowed me because he had a Muslim Imam, a young Rabbi, a Buddhist monk, and a Mormon bishop. They were all there for 5 services and had not met each other before. Two things make this my favorite moment for the year: by the end of it the Muslim Imam and Rabbi hugged each other on the stage, and the Mormon bishop said they could not believe how they’d been received by our church and they loved being here. They each articulated a very different understanding of God, but what was beautiful was how they all felt so welcomed at our church as a Christian community.
  • Ben – This past summer we launched a special baptism service at the beach. We thought maybe we’ll get a few people. 500 people signed up for beach baptisms, which was going to be happening two weeks from that date. So when the Holy Spirit pleasantly surprises you it’s always beautiful. And then to see the staff pulled together in that scramble mode and worked together as a team was a beautiful thing. And lastly I had a chance to baptize my daughter at the beach as well.
  • Rich – I’ve been back at Connexus Church just north of Toronto and we finally launched a third location. I’m so glad that we launched and am really proud of the team there. The last two weekends I got a chance to be a part at the campus for a little bit and with hosting and that has been a real highlight for me.

Today’s show is a bit different. It’s the last episode of 2019 so we thought we would make some 2019 multisite church predictions!

Rich’s Predictions:

Rich’s prediction is that we’ll see 2-3 name-brand churches that everyone knows take a foray into a virtual reality campus. Facebook Spaces is a technology that continues to mature. It can provide a good opportunity for those who can’t physically get to church to still attend church from home or the hospital or nursing home.

Another prediction is that major (maybe 2) multisite church will pull apart. Multisites are a matrix by definition and so with every decision you make, you not only have to worry about what one person at one location thinks, but also what someone else thinks. From a leadership point of view, that creates inherent tension between people in the central roles and campus pastors, and can lead to multisites pulling apart from each other. 

Greg’s Predictions:

Greg predicts that there may be a gradual switch of churches from being primarily a physical presence with an online expression to being more of an online presence with a physical expression. People can watch the services online, and then come to the church for the things they need, such as baptism.

Another prediction is more texting and less phone calls in assimilation follow up. Greg points out that a common theme among us today is when an unfamiliar phone number comes across our cell phones we often let it go to voice mail instead of answering.

Over the last 15 years, Greg has noticed the vulnerability of the mid-sized church. More churches have become less than 100 and more churches have become over 1,000. Greg says that large churches will start to look the same regardless of their heritage, tradition or denomination, whereas the smaller churches will keep their distinctives.

There will also be more scalable solutions rather than one size fits all. When people develop a resource to the church, it will have to be something that can fit into the small church of less than 100 and help it, while also being totally usable in the large church environment. Anything we have to share has to work in a different culture and size.

Natalie’s Predictions:

There will be an increase with more than simply the adult teaching content online. There will be a move towards more content on a digital platform. Also, there will be more of an online experience available on the church’s website for kids and youth in order to make them interested in the church and give them reoccurring experiences online.

If kids aren’t sure, it makes it more difficult for parents to decide to go to the church. 65% of adults are visual learners and so using images is important to draw them, and Rich suspects that the number is likely higher when it comes to kids. Therefore the kids actually seeing a picture of what they’ll encounter at the church before they go is very likely to increase their interest in going; using the church website to gain their interest will be a good win.

Cities and regions will be connected as churches look beyond denominational lines in order to do things together. We’ll see more of that, specifically in mid-sized cities in North America, to look beyond denominational lines to link arms.

Ben’s Predictions:

Prediction podcasts and blogposts are so much fun – you can make wild assertions without any accountability! Ben predicts an increase in social media from a staffing perspective and so multisite churches will start to hire social media manager or a digital developer. He has heard from many people already that they have increased their own social media and so he predicts that churches will move on from volunteer based web designers and social media managers to staff members.

Another prediction is that we will see less multisite churches trying to go across state lines. They will scale back and continue to be more regionally or geographically focused with less national aspirations. Churches will focus more on who they are, what they’re trying to do, and who their target is.

There are a lot of succession plans in the works with mega churches, but a lot of pastors are still holding onto leadership when they should be letting go. It should accelerate in the next few years and a lot of megachurch boomer pastors pass the baton. Lastly, after the high profile case with Bill Hybels and Willow Creek Community Church and their succession plan not going successfully, there could be a lot of churches that respond to that and over-course correct in how they have their male and female employees interact with each other. Possibly too many boundaries may be set, and if females can only have conversations with men in a group environment, it limits the leadership pipeline for a lot of females if there aren’t other females established on staff  in leaderships positions.

Predictions from Facebook:

Rich crowdsourced this question on his personal FB page and the Church Communication page and found the results interesting. Those results are below.

  • Keri Ladouceur – Box store to boutique / Less celebrity pastors / Transformation over information / More women empowered / Multiplication movements over mega
  • Wes Gay – I think you’ll start to see a shift away from video venues and toward autonomous churches, like the Village Church shift.
  • Nik Goodner – I think you’ll see a lot of churches moving away from in-house designers as companies/freelancers become more accessible with the creative role evolving into a more strategic position/managing contractors and less of a creator position.
  • Dave Adamson – People will realize that personal is more important than personality / Omnichannel will be more important than multichannel
  • Lewies Vander – I hope that the value and power of well designed conversational church chatbots will be considered and implemented!

Contact us at our websites:

www.themeetinghouse.com

www.curriculum.church

www.gregcurtis-assimilation.com
Use code SHERPA10 through January 6, 2019 for 10% off Greg’s new “Climbing the Assimilayas” video course.

www.cfmiami.org

www.benstapley.info

Got a question for us? Record it and send it to rich@unseminary.com

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https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-the-2019-predictions-episode/feed/ 1 Welcome back to our monthly All About Multisite podcast! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows: Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. She is a key leader from The Meeting House. This church has 19 (!) locations and is doing all kinds of great stuff, including a killer kids’ & youth curriculum that they give away for free. Natalie’s a lot of fun and will have so many great insights around leading in a thriving multisite church.
Greg Curtis is our guest connections and assimilation expert. He leads at Eastside Christian Church, one of the fastest growing churches in the country, and literally, is the “go to” source for getting people to stick and stay in the church. (Eastside has assimilated something like 1,500 people in the last 18 months!) His coaching practice around assimilation is amazing.
Ben Stapley is our communications and service programming expert. Ben is one of the most helpful leaders I know. His day job is the Weekend Experience Director at Christ Fellowship in Miami, but he does so much to help other leaders with the “big show” part of church world.
And I, Rich, have been involved with 14 different campus launches over the years and enjoy helping churches that are thinking about multisite.
We are here to answer your questions about running a multisite church and are excited to be here today with our ninth episode.
Opening Question: What was a favorite (NON-CHRISTMAS) memory from your church this year?

* Natalie – We launched our very own kids’ music for the first time this year. Another sweet memory that’s just fresh: I taught at a retreat a couple weekends ago and I was the junior high speaker. It was so awesome to see kids hungry and seeking after Jesus.
* Greg – It was a panel our lead pastor did in a worship service. He asked the question “Is the God of all religions the same God?” He put a panel together and the results wowed me because he had a Muslim Imam, a young Rabbi, a Buddhist monk, and a Mormon bishop. They were all there for 5 services and had not met each other before. Two things make this my favorite moment for the year: by the end of it the Muslim Imam and Rabbi hugged each other on the stage, and the Mormon bishop said they could not believe how they’d been received by our church and they loved being here. They each articulated a very different understanding of God, but what was beautiful was how they all felt so welcomed at our church as a Christian community.
* Ben – This past summer we launched a special baptism service at the beach. We thought maybe we’ll get a few people. 500 people signed up for beach baptisms, which was going to be happening two weeks from that date. So when the Holy Spirit pleasantly surprises you it’s always beautiful. And then to see the staff pulled together in that scramble mode and worked together as a team was a beautiful thing. And lastly I had a chance to baptize my daughter at the beach as well.
* Rich – I’ve been back at Connexus Church just north of Toronto and we finally launched a third location. I’m so glad that we launched and am really proud of the team there. The last two weekends I got a chance to be a part at the campus for a little bit and with hosting and that has been a real highlight for me.

Today’s show is a bit different. It’s the last episode of 2019 so we thought we would make some 2019 multisite church predictions!
Rich’s Predictions:
Rich’s prediction is that we’ll see 2-3 name-brand churches that everyone knows take a foray into a virtual reality campus. Facebook Spaces is a technology that continues to mature. It can provide a good opportunity for those who can’t physically get to church to still attend church from home or the hospital or nursing home.
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All About Multisite // Tips for Adding a 4th Location & Campus Pastor Essentials https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-tips-for-adding-a-4th-location-campus-pastor-essentials/ https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-tips-for-adding-a-4th-location-campus-pastor-essentials/#respond Wed, 28 Nov 2018 09:44:43 +0000 https://unseminary.com/?p=9700 Welcome back to our new podcast all about multisite! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows:

Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. She is a key leader from The Meeting House. This church has 19 (!) locations and is doing all kinds of great stuff, including a killer kids’ & youth curriculum that they give away for free. Natalie’s a lot of fun and will have so many great insights around leading in a thriving multisite church.

Greg Curtis is our guest connections and assimilation expert. He leads at Eastside Christian Church, one of the fastest growing churches in the country, and literally, is the “go to” source for getting people to stick and stay in the church. (Eastside has assimilated something like 1,500 people in the last 18 months!) His coaching practice around assimilation is amazing.

Ben Stapley is our communications and service programming expert. Ben is one of the most helpful leaders I know. His day job is the Weekend Experience Director at Christ Fellowship in Miami, but he does so much to help other leaders with the “big show” part of church world.

And I, Rich, have been involved with 14 different campus launches over the years and enjoy helping churches that are thinking about multisite.

We are here to answer your questions about running a multisite church and are excited to be here today with our eighth episode.

Opening question: We tend to think about gifts as we go into this holiday season, so if you could give one gift to every church leader who was tuning in, what would that gift be?

  • Natalie – To go and take a Sunday to visit another church.
  • Greg – A minimum one-month sabbatical (or a weekly sabbath if you don’t have a sabbatical policy at your church)
  • Ben –Greg stole my answer! But my back-up would be a subscription to Audible.
  • Richto give people a chance to have actual friends in ministry to connect with and have those real conversations with

Q1: We’re about to go to our fourth campus, and it will be a mobile campus at a school where we have to set up/tear down each week.  As the communication director, what am I in for?

Two campuses from Natalie’s church meet at school locations, and most of the campuses hold mid-week youth programs at schools. She finds that signage is the essential key for success when launching a portable site. Signs that point out where to go and what to do are so important for new guests and for parents who drop their kids off at various classrooms—you want to make sure people don’t feel lost. Natalie strongly encourages your guest connections people or host team to bring those new guests all the way through the site—not just once but throughout the beginning of new-here vistors’ journey with your church.  Lastly, be sure to keep your signage up until parents have picked up their children from a classroom. That should be a given, but since signs are so easy to pull down so quickly, we usually take them down right away so we feel like we’re ahead of schedule in packing up. This is a real no-no—you want to help parents know where their children are so they can pick up their kids!

Natalie’s tip of the day:  Have a small label at the end of a rolled-up sign so that you know what the sign is for! It might sound silly, but it’s the ultimate timesaver. Laminate small signs—and always be sure to use wall-safe tape when you’re using a rental site.

Ben says to make sure all of your communication pieces are all portable, minimal, and storable—storability is key! Don’t cheap out on your portable solutions. Sure, in your permanent locations, you can spend less since you worry less about wear and tear, but that doesn’t work when you’re setting up and tearing down every weekend. He advises enlisting the help of an agency that can help you navigate the process and avoid otherwise costly mistakes. Also, be aware of any­ communications limitations and zoning laws from your local municipality and local host site. Lastly, be ready to invest in A-frames—you’re going to need those things all over the place, so budget for them now!

Ben’s best tip: Design your communication for a new guest that is a parent running late and they forgot their coffee. If you design your signage for that person then you’re going to hit everybody. Once you feel like you’ve gotten all of your signage needs identified, double them.

From a guest connections point of view, position your welcome desk critically and invest in proper signage.  Ensure the right people are available to guests during teardown. A lot of the best communication and connection moments happen right after a service. If you color code signs, make them loud and clear. Greg also suggests that portable sites learn to leverage social media in a specific, powerful way—always make sure you announce how to find out more! Move away from the personal phone call to texting and the benefits of using a service like Google Voice.

Greg’s best tip: Have a great all-access tour as part of your assimilation program. Invite your guests to see what happens behind the scenes at the portable site—they want to be familiar and see how everything works together.

Q2:  We all know that campus pastors are a critical piece of the whole multisite journey, so how would you describe the perfect campus pastor?

Since Greg’s church brings in the teaching via video from the hub, he eliminates teaching ability from his description of the perfect campus pastor. Greg focuses on qualities from the StrengthsFinder book, believing that the ability to “WOO” (winning others over) is critical.  In order to win others for Jesus, he says campus pastors should be trustworthy, sincere, and believable. The ability to be a communicator, think strategically, and be a team player who represents the community he or she serves—these are all traits to look for in a great campus pastor.

At Meeting House where Natalie serves, they have lead pastors, not campus pastors, but that’s just a change in terms. Overall, Natalie agrees with Greg. She discusses some changes she’s seen in the job description and hiring habits at her church over the years: campus pastors teach several times a year at their own location—this didn’t used to be a requirement, but now the church seeks that teaching ability more than in the past. Natalie feels like a strong campus pastor should clearly communicate through writing as well as through verbal articulation of thoughts and ideas. She also finds that a campus pastor should be someone who looks for, equips, and empowers other leaders to support and encourage.  A campus pastor with a rich prayer life is a huge gift to the church as well!

While Ben also agrees with his colleagues, he also takes the perspective of what he would look for on a resume.  It might seem counterintuitive, but he suggests that a multisite or new portable church hire somebody without preaching experience if they already have video teaching in place. Then you won’t have to pull them back from a road they’ve already been down. Ben also points out the benefits to hiring someone with a pastoral heart but pastoral experience and how that might serve a multisite church better than a pastor with single-site pastoral experience. Single-site pastors are used to leading the organization rather than being number two and that can create baggage. Lastly, Ben would look for someone who may have run a franchise before since a multisite church shares the franchising model and perspective. He also mentions the need for schools of education to better train and equip people to serve multisite churches.

Contact us at our websites:

www.themeetinghouse.com

www.curriculum.church

www.gregcurtis-assimilation.com

www.cfmiami.org

www.benstapley.info

Got a question for us? Record it and send it to rich@unseminary.com

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https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-tips-for-adding-a-4th-location-campus-pastor-essentials/feed/ 0 Welcome back to our new podcast all about multisite! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows: Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. She is a key leader from The Meeting House. This church has 19 (!) locations and is doing all kinds of great stuff, including a killer kids’ & youth curriculum that they give away for free. Natalie’s a lot of fun and will have so many great insights around leading in a thriving multisite church.
Greg Curtis is our guest connections and assimilation expert. He leads at Eastside Christian Church, one of the fastest growing churches in the country, and literally, is the “go to” source for getting people to stick and stay in the church. (Eastside has assimilated something like 1,500 people in the last 18 months!) His coaching practice around assimilation is amazing.
Ben Stapley is our communications and service programming expert. Ben is one of the most helpful leaders I know. His day job is the Weekend Experience Director at Christ Fellowship in Miami, but he does so much to help other leaders with the “big show” part of church world.
And I, Rich, have been involved with 14 different campus launches over the years and enjoy helping churches that are thinking about multisite.
We are here to answer your questions about running a multisite church and are excited to be here today with our eighth episode.
Opening question: We tend to think about gifts as we go into this holiday season, so if you could give one gift to every church leader who was tuning in, what would that gift be?

* Natalie – To go and take a Sunday to visit another church.
* Greg – A minimum one-month sabbatical (or a weekly sabbath if you don’t have a sabbatical policy at your church)
* Ben –Greg stole my answer! But my back-up would be a subscription to Audible.
* Rich—to give people a chance to have actual friends in ministry to connect with and have those real conversations with

Q1: We’re about to go to our fourth campus, and it will be a mobile campus at a school where we have to set up/tear down each week.  As the communication director, what am I in for?
Two campuses from Natalie’s church meet at school locations, and most of the campuses hold mid-week youth programs at schools. She finds that signage is the essential key for success when launching a portable site. Signs that point out where to go and what to do are so important for new guests and for parents who drop their kids off at various classrooms—you want to make sure people don’t feel lost. Natalie strongly encourages your guest connections people or host team to bring those new guests all the way through the site—not just once but throughout the beginning of new-here vistors’ journey with your church.  Lastly, be sure to keep your signage up until parents have picked up their children from a classroom. That should be a given, but since signs are so easy to pull down so quickly, we usually take them down right away so we feel like we’re ahead of schedule in packing up. This is a real no-no—you want to help parents know where their children are so they can pick up their kids!
Natalie’s tip of the day:  Have a small label at the end of a rolled-up sign so that you know what the sign is for! It might sound silly, but it’s the ultimate timesaver. Laminate small signs—and always be sure to use wall-safe tape when you’re using a rental site.
Ben says to make sure all of your communication pieces are all portable, minimal, and storable—storability is key! Don’t cheap out on your portable solutions. Sure, in your permanent locations, you can spend less since you worry less about wear and tear, but that doesn’t work when you’re setting up and tearing down every weekend. He advises enlisting the help of an agency that can help yo...]]>
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All About Multisite // Model for 2 Location Multisite? A Very Multisite Christmas? https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-model-for-2-location-multisite-a-very-multisite-christmas/ https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-model-for-2-location-multisite-a-very-multisite-christmas/#comments Wed, 31 Oct 2018 08:44:44 +0000 https://unseminary.com/?p=9635 Welcome back to our new podcast all about multisite! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows:

Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. She is a key leader from The Meeting House. This church has 19 (!) locations and is doing all kinds of great stuff, including a killer kids’ & youth curriculum that they give away for free. Natalie’s a lot of fun and will have so many great insights around leading in a thriving multisite church.

Greg Curtis is our guest connections and assimilation expert. He leads at Eastside Christian Church, one of the fastest growing churches in the country, and literally, is the “go to” source for getting people to stick and stay in the church. (Eastside has assimilated something like 1,500 people in the last 18 months!) His coaching practice around assimilation is amazing.

Ben Stapley is our communications and service programming expert. Ben is one of the most helpful leaders I know. His day job is the Weekend Experience Director at Christ Fellowship in Miami, but he does so much to help other leaders with the “big show” part of church world.

And I, Rich, have been involved with 14 different campus launches over the years and enjoy helping churches that are thinking about multisite.

We are here to answer your questions about running a multisite church and are excited to be here today with our seventh episode.

Opening question: If you could switch out your role for any other role in your church, what would it be?

  • Natalie – Either a lead pastor role at one of our campuses or (if we had such a role) some kind of guest connections role.
  • Greg – I would switch places with our teaching pastor.  
  • Ben -I would say something like a junior high or a grief share role—for me, those are the opportunities for some pivotal moments in people’s lives.

Q1: After several years of having a second campus, we really need a model for staff interaction. Is there a good starting point to begin to put a model in place?

Natalie said that a model is more than who reports to whom; it begins with an overarching vision. What is shared, what isn’t? What makes it a multisite other than two churches that share finances or branding? Make a list of essentials that helps guide your church to understand its identity. Get to a place with a shared program, shared structure, and shared resources. Connect on training times and create a common list of everything from setting up a classroom to supplies and toys. Natalie also advised that when you plan, don’t just plan for a few locations—plan for many locations and consider what the sites would look like ten years down the road.

Ben offered insights from a service programming perspective. First, evaluate the following: how do you help teams from a creative point of view? When you go from one to more than one, start planning your preaching calendar further in advance (e.g. plan it out in the fall for the upcoming year, and roll it out to the staff around December). To streamline communications, standardize your announcements and your events, and consider hosting just one event as a whole church instead of several smaller events which vary per site. Ben also suggested that churches move from live to video announcement, have a consistent playlist for the worship teams, and standardize social media.

Greg responded to this question with a series of questions for the executive team to reflect on. Where in the spectrum between a church plant and a campus is that church? If you’re referring to one site as the “main campus,” are the sites the same size or is one significantly larger than the other? Is there any vision for another campus? When it comes to assimilation, make it the same experience for guests at both campuses.  Greg also agrees with Natalie’s praise for the power of bulk supplies—do the same thing at all campuses for economy.

Q2:  With a big day like Halloween here, we figured what better thing to talk about than one of the biggest days in the church calendar—Christmas! What are you doing to get your particular church ready for this Big Day and what advice would you give with other churches as they prepare for Christmas?

Natalie said she began planning for Christmas eight months ago! When she looks at Christmas, she thinks about guests and guest families. Consider how Christmas Eve is going to be experienced by those who have never attended church before, or who may have attended church services but never attended with kids. Natalie says it’s also important to remind our communities of things like junior high—how old are your middle schoolers, and how can you reach out to them? Her church also budgets more around Christmastime as an investment that shows how they value this time of year.  Lastly, Natalie reminded us to pray for people to have a meaningful experience of being reminded of who “God with us” is, being reminded of the incarnation, and being reminded of those who will be impacted in a new way by the story of the birth of our Savior. Likewise, Rich points out that Christmas still has a culture touchstone and that does push us to question how we should be preparing spiritually for that.

Ben’s church is currently employing communications strategies with his staff to keep everyone in the loop. From the service programming perspective, Ben encourages churches to continue to look outside and leverage relationships and research to prepare. It’s easy for multisite churches to see their expansion and feel like they can rest or even become lazy, and if you do that, your experiences will suffer. Enter the season with a spirit of humility and do that by looking outside your walls and keep on learning from peers at other churches. Ben also offers ideas on having a mastermind group, being transparent about creative influences, and the significant value of brainstorming meetings (and how to creatively consider who you can bring to the table.)

Greg likens Christmas to the church’s version of the Super Bowl since there is no other weekend where we have as big an outreach and as high attendance as this. He gives practical tips on how to utilize lighting and sound properly in the common areas at holiday time so they aren’t distracting, how to involve children and families, how to avoid lines at guest services, and how to give a gift that matters. Greg points out that Christmas guests are different than regular guests, so you have to engage with them differently as well as use a different follow-up process and procedure. Remember that Christmas guests didn’t necessarily come on Christmas because they are looking for a church, they came because it’s Christmas and perhaps family invited them. He explains how his team handwrites a notecard and sends a gift to arrive after New Year’s Day rather than immediately after Christmas when people are more focused on spending time with loved ones than looking for a church. Follow up with a great series and start advertising that series on Christmas, with a reminder in the guest follow-up after New Year’s Day.

Contact us at our websites:

www.themeetinghouse.com

www.curriculum.church

www.gregcurtis-assimilation.com

www.cfmiami.org

www.benstapley.info

Got a question for us? Record it and send it to rich@unseminary.com

Thank You for Tuning In!

There are a lot of podcasts you could be tuning into today, but you chose unSeminary, and I’m grateful for that. If you enjoyed today’s show, please share it by using the social media buttons you see at the left hand side of this page. Also, kindly consider taking the 60-seconds it takes to leave an honest review and rating for the podcast on iTunes, they’re extremely helpful when it comes to the ranking of the show and you can bet that I read every single one of them personally!

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https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-model-for-2-location-multisite-a-very-multisite-christmas/feed/ 2 Welcome back to our new podcast all about multisite! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows: Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. She is a key leader from The Meeting House. This church has 19 (!) locations and is doing all kinds of great stuff, including a killer kids’ & youth curriculum that they give away for free. Natalie’s a lot of fun and will have so many great insights around leading in a thriving multisite church.
Greg Curtis is our guest connections and assimilation expert. He leads at Eastside Christian Church, one of the fastest growing churches in the country, and literally, is the “go to” source for getting people to stick and stay in the church. (Eastside has assimilated something like 1,500 people in the last 18 months!) His coaching practice around assimilation is amazing.
Ben Stapley is our communications and service programming expert. Ben is one of the most helpful leaders I know. His day job is the Weekend Experience Director at Christ Fellowship in Miami, but he does so much to help other leaders with the “big show” part of church world.
And I, Rich, have been involved with 14 different campus launches over the years and enjoy helping churches that are thinking about multisite.
We are here to answer your questions about running a multisite church and are excited to be here today with our seventh episode.
Opening question: If you could switch out your role for any other role in your church, what would it be?

* Natalie – Either a lead pastor role at one of our campuses or (if we had such a role) some kind of guest connections role.
* Greg – I would switch places with our teaching pastor.  
* Ben -I would say something like a junior high or a grief share role—for me, those are the opportunities for some pivotal moments in people’s lives.

Q1: After several years of having a second campus, we really need a model for staff interaction. Is there a good starting point to begin to put a model in place?
Natalie said that a model is more than who reports to whom; it begins with an overarching vision. What is shared, what isn’t? What makes it a multisite other than two churches that share finances or branding? Make a list of essentials that helps guide your church to understand its identity. Get to a place with a shared program, shared structure, and shared resources. Connect on training times and create a common list of everything from setting up a classroom to supplies and toys. Natalie also advised that when you plan, don’t just plan for a few locations—plan for many locations and consider what the sites would look like ten years down the road.
Ben offered insights from a service programming perspective. First, evaluate the following: how do you help teams from a creative point of view? When you go from one to more than one, start planning your preaching calendar further in advance (e.g. plan it out in the fall for the upcoming year, and roll it out to the staff around December). To streamline communications, standardize your announcements and your events, and consider hosting just one event as a whole church instead of several smaller events which vary per site. Ben also suggested that churches move from live to video announcement, have a consistent playlist for the worship teams, and standardize social media.
Greg responded to this question with a series of questions for the executive team to reflect on. Where in the spectrum between a church plant and a campus is that church? If you’re referring to one site as the “main campus,” are the sites the same size or is one significantly larger than the other? Is there any vision for another campus? When it comes to assimilation, make it the same experience for guests at both campuses.]]>
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All About Multisite: New Service or New Campus? Explaining Matrix Leadership Model https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-new-service-or-new-campus-explaining-matrix-leadership-model/ https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-new-service-or-new-campus-explaining-matrix-leadership-model/#respond Wed, 26 Sep 2018 08:44:17 +0000 https://unseminary.com/?p=9561 Welcome back to our new podcast all about multisite! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows:

Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. She is a key leader from The Meeting House. This church has 19 (!) locations and is doing all kinds of great stuff, including a killer kids’ & youth curriculum that they give away for free. Natalie’s a lot of fun and will have so many great insights around leading in a thriving multisite church.

Greg Curtis is our guest connections and assimilation expert. He leads at Eastside Christian Church, one of the fastest growing churches in the country, and literally, is the “go to” source for getting people to stick and stay in the church. (Eastside has assimilated something like 1,500 people in the last 18 months!) His coaching practice around assimilation is amazing.

Ben Stapley is our communications and service programming expert. Ben is one of the most helpful leaders I know. His day job is the Weekend Experience Director at Christ Fellowship in Miami, but he does so much to help other leaders with the “big show” part of church world.

And I, Rich, have been involved with 14 different campus launches over the years and enjoy helping churches that are thinking about multisite.

We are here to answer your questions about running a multisite church and are excited to be here today with our sixth episode.

Opening Question: What was a highlight from summer?

  • Natalie – My daughter had an awesome week at Camp Mini-Yo-We and then we traveled to a lot as a family. It was great to travel and relax a bit.
  • Greg – I came back from a Sabbatical in Italy and went to San Francisco. I took my adult kids on a National Park tour and then hung out at the beach.
  • Ben – Professionally I transitioned in positions. I used to be the Creative Arts Pastor at Liquid Church in New Jersey. But just recently I came on board as the Weekend Experience Director at Christ Fellowship in Miami.

Q1: When do you know it’s time to go multisite, rather than adding another service?

Multisite isn’t a growth strategy, it’s a multiplication strategy. Going multisite won’t kickstart your church to grow, but if your church is growing, it’s a way to take that growth and multiply it into new areas. So what factors need to be present for you to launch a new campus?

Natalie recommends that you think about the economic point of view. A lot of the costs can be easily minimized and measured in launching a second service at the same site rather than launching a second campus. In kids’ ministry, Natalie thinks about all of the classroom supplies, the volunteers and investment needed for new classrooms and youth groups, youth activities, and so on. If parking is an issue at your campus, one alternative would be moving your original campus instead of launching a second site.

When asked, “Should I add another service or another site?” Ben says the answer is yes. “If your church is growing don’t you as a leader be the bottleneck because you have a small vision; release it as much as you can.” Start with a big vision. Maximize your current space before you look to launch another campus. The top three bottlenecks for service growth are parking space, auditorium space, and kid space. Parking is tough, but the way that they got around it at the Liquid Church broadcast campus where Ben previously worked was by offering a shuttle service with one of the local businesses. They offered the business use of their auditorium if they could use the business’s parking lot for their shuttle service on Sunday mornings.

When the cost of expanding capacity at a service is greater than the cost of launching a campus, then launch a campus. Greg recommends looking at the costs of property in your area and the building codes and construction costs as well. Compare the two and see which one would cost less. Launching an entirely new campus may cost less than expanding or remodeling the current campus based on building codes in your area.

From an assimilation standpoint, make sure you launch your campus or service only when you have the place, program and process for placement ready. The average church assimilates 1 out of 19 guests. When you launch a new site, you want to have your assimilation strategy fully expressed at the kick off, even for the practice services. Those early weeks will be your biggest numbers for a full season, so why loose 3 out of 4 visitors because you’re not prepared? You want the assimilation strategy fully ready so you can be collecting those guest cards and heavily promoting whatever guest program that you’ll be sending them to.

Q2: Can you explain to people how your “central team” vs. “campus teams” interact with each other? Explain it to us as if you are talking to a team member in a campus for the first time. Help us understand how to clarify the “matrix model” in a way that is transportable and easy to understand.

Central has systems and content, while the campus has relationships with people. Central creates the framework so that the campus doesn’t have to. Natalie’s role as a curriculum pastor works on the central side, with her major tasks to provide content for all of the locations, provide the support for questions people may have, and then find out what works and what doesn’t. Then feedback is a huge part of both the central and campus teams. Use the feedback to get a big picture of what is going on and utilize that to develop what works for both groups to create unity and congruency.

In launching several multisites, Greg has learned that by the time you get to the fifth campus you need a unique central team. This central team comes on as a dotted line relationship to support and help launch the systems at the new campus. Set up campus pastor or campus assimilation director meetings with the central assimilation team member prior to the launch and then continue monthly meetings with that group. Explain all of the systems and content which is in place, take on the role of a coach and hold them accountable to making sure that these systems are being executed.

Central teams create content and systems during the week which campuses put into action on Sunday. Another way to say it is central creates an experience and campuses execute the experience. Ben uses the analogy where central builds a car but the campus drives it. Campus pastors will often have a solid line to leaders on their site, such as the worship leader or student pastor, and then central staff will have a dotted line to those people. But the reverse is also possible, where central has the oversight of the campus area leaders and the campus pastor has dotted line influence over the people. In areas where specific areas of expertise is required, those central solid line connections may work better. A campus pastor may not know if the bands are in tune, but the central worship pastor would because he or she has the expertise in that area. Also, central having the solid line and campus pastors having the dotted line allows the campus pastors to have more time for relationships with their congregation.

Contact us at our websites:

www.themeetinghouse.com

www.curriculum.church

www.gregcurtis-assimilation.com

www.cfmiami.org

www.benstapley.info

Got a question for us? Record it and send it to rich@unseminary.com

Thank You for Tuning In!

There are a lot of podcasts you could be tuning into today, but you chose unSeminary, and I’m grateful for that. If you enjoyed today’s show, please share it by using the social media buttons you see at the left hand side of this page. Also, kindly consider taking the 60-seconds it takes to leave an honest review and rating for the podcast on iTunes, they’re extremely helpful when it comes to the ranking of the show and you can bet that I read every single one of them personally!

Lastly, don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast on iTunes, to get automatic updates every time a new episode goes live! 

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https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-new-service-or-new-campus-explaining-matrix-leadership-model/feed/ 0 Welcome back to our new podcast all about multisite! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows: Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. She is a key leader from The Meeting House. This church has 19 (!) locations and is doing all kinds of great stuff, including a killer kids’ & youth curriculum that they give away for free. Natalie’s a lot of fun and will have so many great insights around leading in a thriving multisite church.
Greg Curtis is our guest connections and assimilation expert. He leads at Eastside Christian Church, one of the fastest growing churches in the country, and literally, is the “go to” source for getting people to stick and stay in the church. (Eastside has assimilated something like 1,500 people in the last 18 months!) His coaching practice around assimilation is amazing.
Ben Stapley is our communications and service programming expert. Ben is one of the most helpful leaders I know. His day job is the Weekend Experience Director at Christ Fellowship in Miami, but he does so much to help other leaders with the “big show” part of church world.
And I, Rich, have been involved with 14 different campus launches over the years and enjoy helping churches that are thinking about multisite.
We are here to answer your questions about running a multisite church and are excited to be here today with our sixth episode.
Opening Question: What was a highlight from summer?

* Natalie – My daughter had an awesome week at Camp Mini-Yo-We and then we traveled to a lot as a family. It was great to travel and relax a bit.
* Greg – I came back from a Sabbatical in Italy and went to San Francisco. I took my adult kids on a National Park tour and then hung out at the beach.
* Ben – Professionally I transitioned in positions. I used to be the Creative Arts Pastor at Liquid Church in New Jersey. But just recently I came on board as the Weekend Experience Director at Christ Fellowship in Miami.

Q1: When do you know it’s time to go multisite, rather than adding another service?
Multisite isn’t a growth strategy, it’s a multiplication strategy. Going multisite won’t kickstart your church to grow, but if your church is growing, it’s a way to take that growth and multiply it into new areas. So what factors need to be present for you to launch a new campus?
Natalie recommends that you think about the economic point of view. A lot of the costs can be easily minimized and measured in launching a second service at the same site rather than launching a second campus. In kids’ ministry, Natalie thinks about all of the classroom supplies, the volunteers and investment needed for new classrooms and youth groups, youth activities, and so on. If parking is an issue at your campus, one alternative would be moving your original campus instead of launching a second site.
When asked, “Should I add another service or another site?” Ben says the answer is yes. “If your church is growing don’t you as a leader be the bottleneck because you have a small vision; release it as much as you can.” Start with a big vision. Maximize your current space before you look to launch another campus. The top three bottlenecks for service growth are parking space, auditorium space, and kid space. Parking is tough, but the way that they got around it at the Liquid Church broadcast campus where Ben previously worked was by offering a shuttle service with one of the local businesses. They offered the business use of their auditorium if they could use the business’s parking lot for their shuttle service on Sunday mornings.
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All About Multisite: Robust Leadership Development Practices & Keeping Teams Aligned https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-robust-leadership-development-practices-keeping-teams-aligned/ https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-robust-leadership-development-practices-keeping-teams-aligned/#respond Wed, 27 Jun 2018 08:44:58 +0000 http://unseminary.wpengine.com/?p=9254 Welcome back to our new podcast all about multisite! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows:

Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. She is a key leader from The Meeting House. This church has 19 (!) locations and is doing all kinds of great stuff, including a killer kids’ & youth curriculum that they give away for free. Natalie’s a lot of fun and will have so many great insights around leading in a thriving multisite church.

Greg Curtis is our guest connections and assimilation expert. He leads at Eastside Christian Church, one of the fastest growing churches in the country, and literally, is the “go to” source for getting people to stick and stay in the church. (Eastside has assimilated something like 1,500 people in the last 18 months!) His coaching practice around assimilation is amazing.

Ben Stapley is our communications and service programming expert. Ben is one of the most helpful leaders I know. His day job is at Liquid Church in NJ, but he does so much to help other leaders with the “big show” part of church world.

And I, Rich, have been involved with 14 different campus launches over the years and enjoy helping churches that are thinking about multisite.

We are here to answer your questions about running a multisite church and are excited to be here today with our fifth episode.

Opening Question: Who are some other multisite churches that you are learning from?

  • Greg Curtis – There isn’t one or two specific ones I have personally invested in, but I would say in general Church of the Highlands and Central Christian in Mesa, Arizona.
  • Natalie Frisk – To be honest with you and without even building into their egos at all, I have been learning a lot from Liquid Church and Eastside, both Greg and Ben. But not just those guys, different people on their teams. Aside from those two, I would also say Crossroads Church in Ohio has been an incredible church to tune into.
  • Ben Stapley – I know one that I’ve given a lot of shout outs to in the past is LCBC Church in Pennsylvania. They’ve been super helpful with their time and have systemized things really well. In terms of following churches from afar, on my radar right now would be Christ Church of the Valley. They do a great job of sharing their resources.

Q1: What are some effective systems and practices churches are using for developing leaders in multisite churches?

Raising up leaders is critically important for both staff and volunteers. 87% of all campus pastors are found from within the existing church and 2/3 of volunteers in all locations are new to volunteering.

Within Eastside Church, when a new campus is started they invite people to come to interest meetings where they can meet the campus pastor and key leaders that have already been recruited for a few major areas. There is a short presentation to let everyone know where the church is in the launch process, and then the leaders are introduced by area. People are invited to sit at the various tables with area leaders based on where they are interested in serving. This process is the beginning of the pipeline, whether they are new to volunteering or experienced, and can lead to key leadership positions. Eastside has learned a lot from watching other organizations and works to adapt and implement what works for them. When they went to Auxano, they designed a three-year process for implementation that would go through the entire staff and department to develop leaders. They use a three-wing environment to develop leaders: Prep Modules, which are comprised of five competencies that help move someone from a team member up to the highest levels of leadership; Inspirational Events to encourage and offer new events for the team members; and Ongoing Equipping Huddles to invite staff to events based on an issue of development to connect with others.

One thing that Natalie recommends is to identify areas of gifting in people when they are young. What does it look like for kids or youth who are super friendly to be at the front door welcoming people into the church? If they’re nervous about the front door, what about positioning them at the kids’ welcoming area? At The Meeting House, the Leadership In Training program allows kids to see what it looks like to work in these positions within the church. The Student Leadership Team then allows students who are really engaged and want to be developed to go the next level in a variety of ministries and areas in the church.

It can be hard to figure out how to create an effective plan for developing a church leader. Natalie suggests planning a clear trajectory. Using the classroom as an example, one idea for a trajectory would be: Classroom Helper to Leader to Coach to Coordinator to Full-time Staff. Have clearly laid out roles and move people along that path to develop them as a leader.

In addition to volunteers, today’s interns could be tomorrow’s leaders, so Ben advises to create an internship program if you don’t already have one. The more interns you have, the less work it is for you. They will be able to collaborate and ask each other for help rather than come to you every time they have a question. The program also allows a “try before you buy” approach for both you and the interns.

Freelancers provide another pipeline. Brian Major at Christ Church strongly advocates for freelancers and he has about a 50/50 split between a full-time staff and freelancers. Freelance keeps your overhead low and gives you more options during peak seasons, like Christmas and Easter.

Q2: Keeping leadership teams “rowing in the same direction” is an important part of multisite church. What are some ways that you are ensuring your teams are focused on working together? Both formally (systems, etc.) and relationally?

Make sure that your staff member’s SMART goals are aligned with the organization goals. Identify some organizational goals for the upcoming year and pass them out to the staff members so that they can identify how their job will support that goal. Identify department goals to help the team work together within their group. Another system would be a Sunday morning huddle before the service or a weekly staff meeting to identify where everyone is at that moment. If some members aren’t able to be there in person, consider setting up virtual options for the meeting so that everyone can join in no matter where they are.

Software can be a great help in strengthening relationships and keeping track of goals. You can use calendar reminders to encourage someone that day. Do that in context to the church’s mission or organizational goal. The software PeopleGoal works great in keeping track of churchwide goals, team goals, and personal goals. It also allows you to give a shout out to someone and encourage them with a goal. Wrike is a project tracking software that allows teams churchwide to keep track of what they are doing and connect, as well as connect with different teams within the church.

Never eat alone! Don’t eat your lunch alone at your desk; join in the lunchroom with the other staff members or invite others out to eat with you. Take advantage of a relaxing meal to get to know the other staff members better.

At Eastside, every staff member uses a 6×6 ministry planning cycle in that they pick 6 leadership goals to complete within 6 months. New staff members are assimilated into the group through a fun process that gives them the real insight behind the scenes at the very beginning. This allows them to feel that they are a part of the team right at the start.  Build dotted line relationships for mentoring and communication to allow for building leadership in staff.

Contact us at our websites:

www.themeetinghouse.com

www.curriculum.church

www.gregcurtis-assimilation.com

www.liquidchurch.com

www.benstapley.info

Got a question for us? Record it and send it to rich@unseminary.com

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https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-robust-leadership-development-practices-keeping-teams-aligned/feed/ 0 Welcome back to our new podcast all about multisite! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows: Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. She is a key leader from The Meeting House. This church has 19 (!) locations and is doing all kinds of great stuff, including a killer kids’ & youth curriculum that they give away for free. Natalie’s a lot of fun and will have so many great insights around leading in a thriving multisite church.
Greg Curtis is our guest connections and assimilation expert. He leads at Eastside Christian Church, one of the fastest growing churches in the country, and literally, is the “go to” source for getting people to stick and stay in the church. (Eastside has assimilated something like 1,500 people in the last 18 months!) His coaching practice around assimilation is amazing.
Ben Stapley is our communications and service programming expert. Ben is one of the most helpful leaders I know. His day job is at Liquid Church in NJ, but he does so much to help other leaders with the “big show” part of church world.
And I, Rich, have been involved with 14 different campus launches over the years and enjoy helping churches that are thinking about multisite.
We are here to answer your questions about running a multisite church and are excited to be here today with our fifth episode.
Opening Question: Who are some other multisite churches that you are learning from?

* Greg Curtis – There isn’t one or two specific ones I have personally invested in, but I would say in general Church of the Highlands and Central Christian in Mesa, Arizona.
* Natalie Frisk – To be honest with you and without even building into their egos at all, I have been learning a lot from Liquid Church and Eastside, both Greg and Ben. But not just those guys, different people on their teams. Aside from those two, I would also say Crossroads Church in Ohio has been an incredible church to tune into.
* Ben Stapley – I know one that I’ve given a lot of shout outs to in the past is LCBC Church in Pennsylvania. They’ve been super helpful with their time and have systemized things really well. In terms of following churches from afar, on my radar right now would be Christ Church of the Valley. They do a great job of sharing their resources.

Q1: What are some effective systems and practices churches are using for developing leaders in multisite churches?
Raising up leaders is critically important for both staff and volunteers. 87% of all campus pastors are found from within the existing church and 2/3 of volunteers in all locations are new to volunteering.
Within Eastside Church, when a new campus is started they invite people to come to interest meetings where they can meet the campus pastor and key leaders that have already been recruited for a few major areas. There is a short presentation to let everyone know where the church is in the launch process, and then the leaders are introduced by area. People are invited to sit at the various tables with area leaders based on where they are interested in serving. This process is the beginning of the pipeline, whether they are new to volunteering or experienced, and can lead to key leadership positions. Eastside has learned a lot from watching other organizations and works to adapt and implement what works for them. When they went to Auxano, they designed a three-year process for implementation that would go through the entire staff and department to develop leaders. They use a three-wing environment to develop leaders: Prep Modules, which are comprised of five competencies that help move someone from a team member up to the highest levels of leadership; Inspirational Events to encourage and offer new events for the team members; and Ongoing Equipping Huddles to invite staff...]]>
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All About Multisite: Campus Driven? Central Driven? A Hybrid of Both? https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-campus-driven-central-drive-a-hybrid-of-both/ https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-campus-driven-central-drive-a-hybrid-of-both/#comments Wed, 30 May 2018 08:44:04 +0000 http://unseminary.wpengine.com/?p=9157 Welcome to our new podcast all about multisite! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows:

Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. She is a key leader from The Meeting House. This church has 19 (!) locations and is doing all kinds of great stuff, including a killer kids’ & youth curriculum that they give away for free. Natalie’s a lot of fun and will have so many great insights around leading in a thriving multisite church.

Greg Curtis is our guest connections and assimilation expert. He leads at Eastside Christian Church, one of the fastest growing churches in the country, and literally, is the “go to” source for getting people to stick and stay in the church. (Eastside has assimilated something like 1,500 people in the last 18 months!) His coaching practice around assimilation is amazing.

Ben Stapley is our communications and service programming expert. Ben is one of the most helpful leaders I know. His day job is at Liquid Church in NJ, but he does so much to help other leaders with the “big show” part of church world.

And I, Rich, have been involved with 14 different campus launches over the years and enjoy helping churches that are thinking about multisite.

We are here to answer your questions about running a multisite church and are excited to be here today with our fourth episode.

Open Question: What are you looking forward to this summer?  

  • Ben Stapley – The shore. Not the beach, but the shore. Family, and jumping back on my motorcycle after all the snow.
  • Greg Curtis – I’ll experience my first sabbatical this summer, so I’m excited about that.
  • Natalie Frisk – Our family is going to western Canada to visit family and then to eastern Canada to have a little vacation.

Q1: What do you think of a hybrid version of campus vs. central version of leadership?

It’s a tension to be managed and something which most leaders in multisite churches probably struggle with on some level. Tension can run really high in this area. Central leadership is better early on for fast launching of campuses, but strong campus leadership is needed as the campuses mature. In any case, it’s important to set the tone that this is not an “us versus them” mentality but a clear “we’re in this together” mindset. In a multisite context, especially as more campuses are added, there must be clarity about what the core values of the ministry are, and what aspects are open to being adapted to a local context, however both campus and central staff should be involved in the process.

The central staff can give clarity of strategy and systems to help things work well in a local context. Centrally they build and develop that supportive framework, and provide vision and direction. Then the campus staff can step in and be empowered to carry that baton, as they serve their local community.

Greg explains the central-campus leader relationship as being like a grandparent: you have all of the joys of coming alongside and supporting without the direct responsibility. You can help make the campus succeed by coaching the campus pastor or giving them advice, but the responsibility of assimilation, for example, lies with the campus staff. Create a close relationship between the central and campus leaders so that you can have someone to turn to for advice and support, or else just a friend to spend time with.

Be aware and sensitive to location and culture differences between campuses, especially if you have campuses in different states or countries. Differences between cultures, even if they’re as simple as the types of weather at different times of year that affect the lifestyle in that area, can mean changes in how things are done from one campus to another and need to be acknowledged and understood within hybrid leadership.

You can use the hybrid system as a bit of a reward method. If one campus is doing great, give them greater freedom and autonomy. But this can also become tough because you aren’t consistent. In other words, how much freedom and responsibility you give to one campus or department isn’t the same across the board. Be aware that it may start to create some unnecessary competition or complaining.

Q2: What do you “miss” about leading in a single site church? How is the multisite model limiting?

In a single site church you have the opportunity to really contextualize your message to that local community. For example, Ben’s multisite churches went through the issue of providing a message on parents wrestling with which extracurricular activities to put their kids into and how to get their kids into the best colleges. But at some of the locations, the parents at those communities couldn’t afford to put their kids into after-school activities, or they were focused on just getting their children to graduate high school and stay out of a gang.

It takes extra effort to build community within a multisite context. It can be easier to create that close community within a single site church, especially in a smaller one, but it takes a lot more effort to connect community across multiple locations.

Sometimes ideas can’t come to fruition due to costs in getting supplies across all locations in multisite churches. A multisite church that is still building their finances may not have enough money to buy the supplies for big children’s church projects. It could be much easier to buy supplies for projects in a single site church.

Contact us at our websites:

www.themeetinghouse.com

www.curriculum.church

www.gregcurtis-assimilation.com

www.liquidchurch.com

www.benstapley.info

Got a question for us? Record it and send it to rich@unseminary.com

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https://unseminary.com/all-about-multisite-campus-driven-central-drive-a-hybrid-of-both/feed/ 1 Welcome to our new podcast all about multisite! I’m chatting with a group of multisite ninjas and answering your questions about the ins and outs of launching new campuses. Our group is as follows: Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. Natalie Frisk is our family ministry expert. She is a key leader from The Meeting House. This church has 19 (!) locations and is doing all kinds of great stuff, including a killer kids’ & youth curriculum that they give away for free. Natalie’s a lot of fun and will have so many great insights around leading in a thriving multisite church.
Greg Curtis is our guest connections and assimilation expert. He leads at Eastside Christian Church, one of the fastest growing churches in the country, and literally, is the “go to” source for getting people to stick and stay in the church. (Eastside has assimilated something like 1,500 people in the last 18 months!) His coaching practice around assimilation is amazing.
Ben Stapley is our communications and service programming expert. Ben is one of the most helpful leaders I know. His day job is at Liquid Church in NJ, but he does so much to help other leaders with the “big show” part of church world.
And I, Rich, have been involved with 14 different campus launches over the years and enjoy helping churches that are thinking about multisite.
We are here to answer your questions about running a multisite church and are excited to be here today with our fourth episode.
Open Question: What are you looking forward to this summer?  

* Ben Stapley – The shore. Not the beach, but the shore. Family, and jumping back on my motorcycle after all the snow.
* Greg Curtis – I’ll experience my first sabbatical this summer, so I’m excited about that.
* Natalie Frisk – Our family is going to western Canada to visit family and then to eastern Canada to have a little vacation.

Q1: What do you think of a hybrid version of campus vs. central version of leadership?
It’s a tension to be managed and something which most leaders in multisite churches probably struggle with on some level. Tension can run really high in this area. Central leadership is better early on for fast launching of campuses, but strong campus leadership is needed as the campuses mature. In any case, it’s important to set the tone that this is not an “us versus them” mentality but a clear “we’re in this together” mindset. In a multisite context, especially as more campuses are added, there must be clarity about what the core values of the ministry are, and what aspects are open to being adapted to a local context, however both campus and central staff should be involved in the process.
The central staff can give clarity of strategy and systems to help things work well in a local context. Centrally they build and develop that supportive framework, and provide vision and direction. Then the campus staff can step in and be empowered to carry that baton, as they serve their local community.
Greg explains the central-campus leader relationship as being like a grandparent: you have all of the joys of coming alongside and supporting without the direct responsibility. You can help make the campus succeed by coaching the campus pastor or giving them advice, but the responsibility of assimilation, for example, lies with the campus staff. Create a close relationship between the central and campus leaders so that you can have someone to turn to for advice and support, or else just a friend to spend time with.
Be aware and sensitive to location and culture differences between campuses, especially if you have campuses in different states or countries. Differences between cultures, even if they’re as simple as the types of weather at different times of year that affect the lifestyle in that area, can mean changes in how things are done from one campus to another and need to be acknowledged and understo...]]>
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